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Drunken Argument Friday: Back to the Future Part 1 vs. Back to the Future Part 2

 
If there’s one thing guys like to do, it’s drink.  If there’s two things they like to do, it’s drink, and argue about things. This is what men do.  This week is a "very special" Drunken Argument Friday, because this is a topic that we’ve argued about many, many times.
 
This Week’s Drunken Argument: Which is better:  Back to the Future: Part 1, or Back to the Future: Part 2?
 
Drunken Argument for Bttf: Part 1
 
 
BttF: Part 2 is just like my senile grandmother’s fruit cake: there’s a bunch of weird shit crammed into it, and you have to really search for any of the good parts.  I mean, for Christ’s sake, they expain time travel in twenty seconds, with a drawing that’s made of two lines.  I don’t ask for a ton of explanation in time travel movies, but the least you can do is figure out a time traveling plot that doesn’t seem like it was created by me in the 4th grade, right after I got pantsed and everyone saw my penis.  The first BttF movie has a solid story, and you get to watch Marty fend off his mom from f*&king him.  Plus, the movie wasn’t bogged down by all these tiny little plot points they tried to force into the script, just to make some kind of sense.  The only thing that the people who like BttF 2 ever talk about is the fuggin’ hoverboard.  That’s it.  They don’t exist, people.  THEY DON’T EXIST.

 
Drunken Argument for BttF: Part 2
 
 
Y’know what? You’re right. Hoverboards don’t exist.  And I know two other things that don’t exist, either: your balls, and time-traveling Deloreans, so let’s just dismiss the "you can’t think it’s cool because it doesn’t really exist" argument altogether, okay? Now that we got that out of the way, nobody can deny that hoverboards are, in fact, awesome.  Here’s a brief list of other things that are also awesome:  Cheezy 3-D Jaws 19 billboards, Auto-fit Nike’s, self-drying jackets, rehydratable pizzas, FLYING time-traveling deloreans, the line "McFry!  Read my fax! You’re fired!!", The Biff Tannen Museum, Mr. Fusions, and (neither last nor least) Grey’s…Sports…Almanac.   People who aren’t afraid of the future find delight in BttF 2‘s ridiculous depiction of the future as a place where fairly lame 80′s technologies are ubiquitous (i.e., fax machines in every room, including the closet), whereas people who are afraid of the future, perhaps because they’ve made some bad life decisions and foresee a dismal, lonely existence ahead of them, tend to find the sequel confusing and scattered.  On behalf of the film’s creators, I’d like to apologize for that.  How dare they make a time travel movie that you have to pay attention to!  In short, BttF 2 is way more awesome, hoverboards will be a reality, and your vagina is showing.
 
What do you think? Back to the Future: Part 1, or Back to the Future: Part 2?
 

95 Responses to "Drunken Argument Friday: Back to the Future Part 1 vs. Back to the Future Part 2"

  1. sky says:

    Apparently my vagina’s showing again, because i’m going with number 1. That and i’m pantsless.

  2. Anonymous says:

    This is actually one of my favorite trilogies, but my biggest issue with bttf 2 is simple. How could you go into the future and run into yourself? You left and jumped to the future, therefore you cannot see yourself 20 years older as you skipped over those 20 years of existence.

  3. Anonymous says:

    exactly. the delorian is in the same exact place in 3-d space, but the earth is somewhere else completely.

  4. Anonymous says:

    My issue with that is if that was the case why was it instant when they went back in time?

  5. Chris says:

    You can’t really split them up. They function best in context of a trilogy. Each has its place, each has its faults, and each has its strengths. 1 is the first, and is a good ride. 2 has the future and the rehash of 1. 3 has the wild west. I couldn’t live without a single of the trilogy.

  6. Anonymous says:

    You do not implode in space, because you are in a huge vacuum with little to no matter around you…to implode would require huge amounts of pressure surrounding Marty…not the case.

    Fucking rookie.

  7. Anonymous says:

    One flaw is how did old biff get back to the normal future after changing the past?

  8. Anonymous says:

    Its a fucking movie Bill Nye shut up

  9. Anonymous says:

    There is a deleted scene in the DVDs where right after coming back from the past(and changing it) he collapses and disappears

  10. Floris says:

    Going into the future and run into yourself is easy. First you travel to the future. Then you travel back to your own time. Then you live your life for 20 years. And then after 20 years you encounter yourself from the past.

  11. td0g says:

    They’d already shown in the first movie that changes in the timestream aren’t instantaneous, otherwise, Marty would’ve disappeared as soon as he pushed his father out of the way of the oncoming car.

  12. Jack Frapter says:

    Wow, thats freakin insane dude. Too cool!

    RT
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  13. Anonymous says:

    Wow, you all equally suck…It’s quite breathtaking actually.

  14. Takahashi says:

    This whole argument is as funny as a screen door on a battleship.

  15. td0g says:

    I would like to rebut that argument, Exhibit A: Godfather Part II. Exhibits B and C: Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers and Return of the King (both better than Fellowship), Exhibit D: The Dark Knight. Exhibit E: Spider-man 2 and Exhibit F: Empire Strikes Back.

  16. Elcid93 says:

    #2 is better because of 2 words… Elizabeth Shue!

  17. Bob says:

    BTTF 2 was better, and not because of the future. The future was neat and all, but it was only about 30 mins of a 2 hour movie. The great thing about 2 was the intricate plot, and the higher stakes. It was great how Doc gave a clear, brief description of time travel. And the lack of incest and gradually fading kids from a picture was a definite plus.

  18. Anonymous says:

    number 2, goddamnit

  19. Dspayre says:

    submarine maybe?

  20. CCDevil says:

    1 is groundbreaking. 2 is masturbation on the idea of 1.

    1 rules.

  21. Anonymous says:

    Being completely sober and of sound mind (well), I have to state for the record that the train ride at the end of bttf 3, is one of the best sequences in all of moviedom.

  22. Anonymous says:

    BttF1, since BttF2 has a timeline flaw which invalidates the whole movie.

  23. Anonymouse says:

    I mostly agree with your comment, but…

    1 All Spiderman films suck.

    2 The Godfather is a better film than its sequel, there are two scenes that especially make it superior (the restaurant killings and the protection of his father at the hospital). The fact that mainstream media has been referring to the sequel as a better film (Scream 2 had a scene where this was discussed for example) seems to have been picked up by the general public, but imo the original is better.

  24. Anonymous says:

    2 all the way

  25. Anonymous says:

    And you’re a condescending idiot Who contributes nothing to the discussion.

  26. bmab says:

    I’m mad too cuz I think 3 should be on the run too!
    but whatever between 1 and 2 I’ll stick for 2 because we see the future, then they go back to the past an dcan’t meet themselfs that are already there etc

  27. Anonymous says:

    I was born in 83 saw the second film in the theaters (i was def too young to see the first one in theaters) and I am openly debating this discussion …. dont be a hater because you feel old pops! P.S. – First one is the best no doubt about it… the idea was fresh different and exciting the second has its merits in the debate but without the glory of the first one there would be no flying deloreans period!!!

  28. mikey says:

    no.2 everytime! FTW

  29. Mr. You Know Who says:

    How the kcuf could you forget Terminator 2?

    Hands down the best sequel to anything in media; print, movies, games, music, tv shows, you, etc…

  30. Pierre says:

    i like the way you think.

  31. Anonymous says:

    That’s what I used to think. Then I was told that we have to consider Marty’s frame of reference when he time travels. Since he isn’t moving relative to his frame of reference, (OK – he’s moving at 88 MPH), he stays in the same 3-D location, even though he changes WHEN he is at that location.

    Those physics guys can pull out some sweet equations when it comes to time travel.

  32. Neeedles, Douglas J. says:

    Earth rotates on it’s axis at about 1000 mph, and rotates around the sun at about 67,000 mph, and the sun rotates through the galaxy ect. So, if Marty went 30 years back in time, and came out in the same spot, he would be floating in space and would implode and die. He wouldn’t come out at Peabody’s pine farm because it would be millions of miles away.

  33. Anonymous says:

    yea best deleted scene ever fully explains everything you need to know about time travel/movies … now if there is any way to have arnold schwarzenegger disappear after filming movies with danny devito or kindergartners my time-space conundrums would be complete.

  34. Mr. Sir says:

    bttf 1
    no doubt

  35. Anonymous says:

    BttF2 all the way.

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    YOU ARE TERMINATED
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  36. Captain Awesome says:

    Part 3, with Buford “Mad Dog” Tannen and ZZ Top!

  37. Why?? says:

    Why isn’t BTTF 3 in the dispute?
    Did you guys just assume that the third one is the worst?
    WITHOUT a drunken argument?

  38. FiatLux says:

    BTTF 1 of course, hands down, end of story.

  39. Why?? says:

    What flaw?

  40. Anonymous says:

    Most of the people that are commenting were probably born after these movies came out. By the way part 1 is the best, this is obvious. No idea why you guys even debate this as only people born in the 90′s debate this kind of crap..

  41. Todd S Bodner says:

    Oh without a doubt the first is the best. The sequels of any movie just never seem to comare!

  42. Anonymous says:

    I mostly agree with your rebuttal but…

    Only SM3 sucked.

    May I also add Star Trek 2.

    (I would also like to take this opportunity to say that every single Batman movie was shit. The latest one had a cool Joker. Thats it. All shit. And you are dumb for liking them.)

  43. Sgt. Spooky says:

    However, Two Towers and Return of the King are not sequels to Fellowship of the Ring. All three were written as one, long, continuous, story. It was merely split into 3 parts for a maximum capital gain.

  44. Anonymouser than thou says:

    I don’t know what the “butterfly affect” is either, let’s have the guy who didn’t understand the sarcasm of the Part 3 comment explain it.

  45. Anonymous says:

    “if you’re going to analyze time traveling, the butterfly effect would mean that nine months later…”
    WHAT?!? Apparently you have no idea of what the butterfly affect is. BTW Part 3 was uber-gay.

  46. Anonymous infinity says:

    From wikipedia:

    The butterfly effect is a phrase that encapsulates the more technical notion of sensitive dependence on initial conditions in chaos theory. Small variations of the initial condition of a dynamical system may produce large variations in the long term behavior of the system. This is sometimes presented as esoteric behavior, but can be exhibited by very simple systems: for example, a ball placed at the crest of a hill might roll into any of several valleys depending on slight differences in initial position.

    It is a common subject in fiction when presenting scenarios involving time travel and with “what if” scenarios where one storyline diverges at the moment of a seemingly minor event resulting in two significantly different outcomes.

  47. @uselesscarnival says:

    I just saw Bttf the other day for the first time in about 5 years. My friends, I have three words for you:

    1. Huey

    2. Fucking

    3. Lewis

    I don’t think that just because a movie is a sequel it is not necessarily as good or better than the original. Terminator 2, Mad Max 2, Star Trek 2, all better than the first. For me it just comes down the fact that Bttf is iconic with a fucking nuts soundtrack/score that epitomized America in 1985.

    Big flaw for me has always been when Marty looks at his hand as it’s fading. Sooooo bad, even by ’85 standards.

  48. Anonymous says:

    The original is a classic- one of the best films of all time. The sequels were jokes that were made to cash in on how popular the original was. BTTF1 by a landslide.

    http://www.ocdhelpbook.com

  49. Mike H says:

    BTTF 1 is the best out of the series hands down. The only thing that BTTF 2 did was set up for part three which I’m still waiting for those two hours that I lost out of my life back. For that matter the only thing 2 and 3 are good for is trying to get your date so bored that they would rather put out on the movie theater floor than watch another second of it.

  50. Charlie says:

    I can’t even believe this is a discussion. Part ONE is easily a better movie. Pt. II is definitely fun, but that’s about it. It was shot poorly, the attention to detail and good filmaking is pretty much non-existent. Suddenly jennifer becomes elisabeth shue (who was not as good as an actress as the original jen, and looked nothing like her, and was not as cute.) The acting in general actually goes downhill in pt. II even amongst the returning cast. Mike J Fox is worse, doc is more campy and caracatured, so is biff. Part II and III were money-making opportunities years after the first one was made. The original did not say “to be continued” at the end, but was later added to the vhs release. The whole “bttf pt.1 vs pt. 2″ thing is retarded… they aren’t even in the same league.

  51. Bill Nye Guy says:

    First of all if Marty was to time travel he would end up in outer space and freeze to death and die immediatly because the Earth rotates around the sun the sun rotates aroud the Milky Way Galaxy and the galaxy drifts through space. So if he when too far into the future he might, just might, end on another planet, in another solar system, in another galaxy, or he might just end up back on Earth if he only skipped exactly 1 year in the future. Unless physics are wrong and scientists are f**king retarded or common sense doesn’t exist.

    P.S.
    All of the movies are LIKE A BOSS!

  52. Anonymous says:

    Lets hear some more parkinsons jokes. The women in charge of this website get all pusshurt when you do that.

  53. Anonymous says:

    TL/DR

    I’m sure its all clever and such.

    Part 1 was a better movie. Part 2 was poorer of story but had more cool shit and time trick for kicks. Part 3 sucked. Period.

  54. filmfan87 says:

    where’s Back to the Future Part III that films almost as good as the original much better than Part II.

  55. Anonymous says:

    My beef with the back to the future movies is with back to the future 3. I am fully aware that doc brown is nothing short of a genius. The main problem that I have with bttf 3 is that doc brown was capable of making the train into a time machine after marty left the wild west. The main fault that I find with this is that doc brown did not have the intelligence or the capabilities to make the delorean into a time traveling machine until 1985. Any viewer of the movies is aware that the flux capaciter is what makes time travel possible. I want to know why doc brown came up with the idea for the flux capaciter in the 1950′s, didn’t make it until the 80′s and was somehow able to replicate the original in the 1800′s with the limited resources and technology that was present at the time. Surely it would be easier for doc brown to replicate the flux capaciter the second time around because of the foreknowledge that he already possessed. Unfortunately, I do not believe that it would have been possible to make another flux capaciter in the 1800′s. Part 3 was interesting and somewhat strayed from the overall plot of the movies while keeping the same premise (and a few issues with time traveling paradoxes), and it was fun to see what the writers could accomplish in the third movie. I’ll admit, it was fun and interesting, but the idea that doc brown made another flux capaciter in the 1800′s is down right impossible. I am also a little upset that once doc brown was able to achieve a replication of the flux capaciter, he was able to make drastic improvements to the train. When the delorean went into the future, no drastic improvements were made to the delorean other than that it was able to run off of garbage. Three has some explaining to do with some of the major plot holes that would not have otherwise occurred except for the responsibility of the writers to make the ending happy and reunite marty and the doc instead of them parting ways for good (except when marty would encounter the bttf 2 time traveling doc brown when marty reached that age) Also, I was kind of hoping to see a part four. The ending with the train and another time traveling device seems to imply a fourth movie, but we as fans and viewers were never given the fourth movie. Aside from time paradoxes and impossible technologies, it was a good movie.

  56. Danny! says:

    bttf 1!

    even though hoverboards are fuckin sick! ;D

  57. BK says:

    sure am tired of people asking for their life back.

  58. Bill Nye Guy says:

    Let me correct myself. First of all if Marty was to time travel he would end up in outer space and freeze and die immediatly because the Earth rotates around the sun the sun rotates aroud the Milky Way Galaxy and the galaxy drifts through space. So if he when too far into the future he might, just might, end on another planet, in another solar system, in another galaxy, or he might just end up back on Earth if he only skipped exactly 1 year in the future. Unless physics are wrong and scientists are f**king retarded or common sense doesn’t exist.

    P.S.
    All of the movies are LIKE A BOSS!

  59. RussAsHell says:

    Just so we’re clear Mr Part 2:

    You just implied that you think his balls, that don’t exist, are cool.

    A part of me wants to say that makes me wanna vote for part 1, but that’s the same part of me that wouldn’t eat candy from a stranger.

    Part 2 it is.

  60. Anonymous says:

    Part 2 was ass water compared to part 1. The original introduced the classic 88mph flux capacitor trigger speed, clock tower, the dance, and revived the DeLorean. The original took place in the then present, not some guessed future and tacky tech. Part one is also more ‘realistic’ since it acknowledges only existing time periods. Same could be said for the original Predator. I guess this means part one’s timelessness makes it better for me.

  61. Anonymous says:

    bttf part 1 no contest. 2 is only as awesome as the original was.

  62. Guy says:

    #4 comes out in 2020, and you’re going to love it.

    BTW, it did say “to be continued” in #1 in the theaters…I’m so damn old, I saw it in the theater…

  63. Anonymouse says:

    True, hey I wonder if there will be another sequel some day. Michael J Fox travels back to the stone age, bangs some cave woman and when he comes back to the future, everbody is shaking like an Energizer bunny.

  64. Awar says:

    BTTF 1 hands down. All 2 has going for it is “McFry!”. I saw 2 in the God Damned theater and there was a literal groan from the entire audience when “To Be Continued” appeared on the screen. I think one guy actually slapped his date out of rage because of this.

    If I saw the old Biff collapse and disappear in 2 that would have made more sense because I just figured that “He just fucking committed suicide doing that, but I guess he is old and does not give a shit.”

    Women like #3 because of…fuck I don’t know, why it blows so hard. The Flux Capacitor was made out of mostly lexan and plastic tubing, this shit was not available at the time unless it was a blown glass version which maybe could be a logical explanation.

    I only liked Elizabeth Shue after Leaving Las Vegas and a movie called “Palmetto”. Before that she was the fucking second Darin from Bewitched.

  65. Cytrode says:

    Part one invented rock and roll.

    Deal.

  66. Dspayre says:

    One day your kids are gonna love this

  67. Kathleen says:

    First of all, my friends, I was born in 1992. I am 17 years old. I can proudly say that I have seen the first BttF movie at least 20 times in my life, easy. I’ve probably seen the 2nd one about 15 times. I love them as if they are my children(even though I have none). The 3rd one, eh, maybe seen it 3 times. But either way, I will gladly stand up for the first 2.
    Firstly, part 1 is the complete and total shiz. And it’s got super-sweet tunes(ie, “Power of Love”, “Back in Time”, and the forever immortal “Johnny B. Goode”)and it’s flipping hilarious.
    Part 2 is awesome because of the hoverboard (and don’t even TRY to tell me that they suck because it’s imaginary), the alternate universes, and the climactic ending. Now if you excuse me, I bid you adieu’.

  68. G-SLACK says:

    BTTF 1!!!1!

    THE ORIGINAL IS TEH BEST!

  69. Anonymous yeah says:

    I go part 1 based on this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiODT22brIU

  70. james johnson says:

    I suppose no one here likes the Skyway sequence from the second BTTF film…C’MON NOW…flying cars and floating lampposts and floating billboard signs!?!? I wish that was a reality right damn now, lol. I for one wouldn’t mind driving to work one day and decide that “going pavement” is too boring when I have the option to take to the skyways. The skyways were something I’ve never seen in any other movie at the time, time-travel theme based or not.

  71. Anonymous says:

    BTTF 2 all the way. Elijah Wood was the lil kid playing the game in the diner! lol

  72. Dspayre says:

    The one where you have to use your hands?

  73. Anonymous says:

    BTTF 1, all day long

    without that the second would have never existed, ORiginals rule

  74. Gabroe says:

    First… I guess? And BttF 2 is awesome!

  75. Anonymous says:

    I’ll never forget the delight of watching part 2 add wild complications to part 1. Seemed pretty original at the time. Then again, I’ll never forget the awfulness of part 3.

  76. Random Asshole says:

    I’m gonna say the first one is better than the second, just like your mom was better the first time.

  77. Anonymous says:

    Part 2.. Remember , there was always rumors about hover boards coming out.. ” I seen the comercial” lmao

  78. Horny Chick says:

    I always wanted to Bang McFly’s Mom in the first movie!

  79. Anonymous says:

    Number 2 was way better, in addition to the already mentioned hoverboards and other cool shit it also has immediate consequences, like when Biff get the book the future changes right away. Not like in the bttf 1 when Marty looks like an autistic kid trying to play the guitar while only parts of him disappear, and why is he the last kid to disappear anyways? If one kid goes they all go, IMMEDIATELY…shenanigans!

  80. Anonymouse says:

    Like it matters that one of them disappears, if you’re going to analyze time traveling, the butterfly effect would mean that nine months later, none of the people born would be the same as before the time travel, the present time the world would have been completely different, with other wars fought, new borderlines of countries as well as completely different fashion, inventions etc.

    Besides that, they both pale compared to Part 3… it was… the wild west… *cough!*

    But if I had to choose from these, Part 1 for sure.

  81. valleygirl71.blogspot.com says:

    Duh, Part I!

  82. Eric says:

    This is a tough choice. Both are great movies in that they had a big problem to solve, great acting, and great humor. I’ve often leaned toward part 2 being my favorite because of visiting the future, which I think would be awesome (and I think it would be interesting to see what happens to me), and as Bob said, the higher stakes.

    And by the way, I remember seeing both of these movies in the theater when they came out. I was a child when they came out. :)

  83. The Pope says:

    BTTF 1 was the best of the series by FAR. No question.

    “That’s the power of love” scene was epic.

  84. Keith Coogan says:

    I put in a vote for Back to the Future number III. You know… the western. Oh, the shame!

  85. Billy Bass says:

    Sometimes I like to pretend I’m living in a future where I have a half decent life, with money, and a girlfriend, instead of coming home to a lonely evening from my shit job, eating Lipton’s Sidekicks and watching old VHS movies ’cause I can’t afford cable.

  86. Anonymous says:

    hoverboards

  87. Domefest says:

    id go to the past, because i could fucking rule the past…id know everything that was going to happen…id be better than biff

  88. Nick says:

    BttF2…easy

    I mean if you had the chance to jump into a time machine, would you go to the past or the future??…

    Yeah, I thought so.

  89. Anonymous says:

    Definitely the first one. Great story, music, characters, and lots of little touches that add up to my favorite movie of all time.

  90. Tyler says:

    BTTF 2
    hoverboards…..woulda given a toe to have one when I was a kid….still would now.

  91. Different Anonymous Guy says:

    BTTF 1. Hands down, any day.